Comments on: “Did Jesus Rise from the Grave?” Atheist Discussion Group in Beaverton Invites Nathan Lewis and Mohammed Rahman to Present the Christian and Muslim Answer http://nathanlewis.org/2010/03/17/did-jesus-rise-from-the-grave-atheist-discussion-group-in-beaverton-invites-nathan-lewis-and-mohammed-rahman-to-present-the-christian-and-muslim-answer/ living the gospel Tue, 22 May 2012 17:52:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Gregory St.James http://nathanlewis.org/2010/03/17/did-jesus-rise-from-the-grave-atheist-discussion-group-in-beaverton-invites-nathan-lewis-and-mohammed-rahman-to-present-the-christian-and-muslim-answer/#comment-144322 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:49:42 +0000 http://nathanlewis.org/2010/03/17/did-jesus-rise-from-the-grave-atheist-discussion-group-in-beaverton-invites-nathan-lewis-and-mohammed-rahman-to-present-the-christian-and-muslim-answer/#comment-144322 Did Jesus Rise From the Grave? The bible never claimed that Jesus rose from the dead. The bible tells us that Jesus was crucified on Friday and was expected to return on Monday. When his mother went to prepare his body on Sunday, his body was gone. Two strangers told her that he rose from the dead, yet Jesus was never seen after that. The two strangers who stole his body and then had another stranger who looked nothing like Jesus go around proclaiming to be Jesus. This stranger who some believed to be Jesus then told them to prove their faith that they really believed that he was Jesus,they had to pick up serpents (and if the serpent did not strike them) then they also had to drink all deadly things. Surely, anyone with reasonable sense knows that the bible does not say that Jesus rose from the dead, it just says that two strangers lied to his mother and said that he did. Yet Jesus was never seen and this stranger who proclaim to be him(who looked nothing like him) tried to kill the people by being the first Reverend Jim Jones. If this stranger was really Jesus, why would he tell his followers to kill themselves. This is why there are really no real Christians because if there were, they would all be dead from snake bite or Jim Jones special kool-aid. When one listen to Christians say that they praise Jesus, remember God's first commandment. Remember that Jesus himself said that there is none good but my Father in Heaven. Remember that Jesus said that no man can serve two masters, for he will love one and hate the other. In other words if you praise me and not my Father, then you hate my Father. Jesus was tricked later when he went up on the mountain with Satan. All of this is in the book Jesus Is No Excuse. It also explains why Jesus told the people that there will be Many who shall come in my name and shall deceive you. This is why Christians are not one but many (Catholic,Protestant,Baptist,Evangelist,Methodist,etc,etc). Did Jesus Rise From the Grave? The bible never claimed that Jesus rose from the dead. The bible tells us that Jesus was crucified on Friday and was expected to return on Monday. When his mother went to prepare his body on Sunday, his body was gone. Two strangers told her that he rose from the dead, yet Jesus was never seen after that. The two strangers who stole his body and then had another stranger who looked nothing like Jesus go around proclaiming to be Jesus. This stranger who some believed to be Jesus then told them to prove their faith that they really believed that he was Jesus,they had to pick up serpents (and if the serpent did not strike them) then they also had to drink all deadly things.
Surely, anyone with reasonable sense knows that the bible does not say that Jesus rose from the dead, it just says that two strangers lied to his mother and said that he did. Yet Jesus was never seen and this stranger who proclaim to be him(who looked nothing like him) tried to kill the people by being the first Reverend Jim Jones. If this stranger was really Jesus, why would he tell his followers to kill themselves. This is why there are really no real Christians because if there were, they would all be dead from snake bite or Jim Jones special kool-aid.
When one listen to Christians say that they praise Jesus, remember God’s first commandment. Remember that Jesus himself said that there is none good but my Father in Heaven. Remember that Jesus said that no man can serve two masters, for he will love one and hate the other. In other words if you praise me and not my Father, then you hate my Father. Jesus was tricked later when he went up on the mountain with Satan. All of this is in the book Jesus Is No Excuse. It also explains why Jesus told the people that there will be Many who shall come in my name and shall deceive you. This is why Christians are not one but many (Catholic,Protestant,Baptist,Evangelist,Methodist,etc,etc).

]]> by: Teressa Wing http://nathanlewis.org/2010/03/17/did-jesus-rise-from-the-grave-atheist-discussion-group-in-beaverton-invites-nathan-lewis-and-mohammed-rahman-to-present-the-christian-and-muslim-answer/#comment-141309 Sat, 01 May 2010 06:14:20 +0000 http://nathanlewis.org/2010/03/17/did-jesus-rise-from-the-grave-atheist-discussion-group-in-beaverton-invites-nathan-lewis-and-mohammed-rahman-to-present-the-christian-and-muslim-answer/#comment-141309 Pastor Nathan, We appreciate very much your input into this debate. Not only is your write up on it educational and enlightening to us who do not know these differences so clearly, but it is also very Gospel honoring, while being respectfully submitted to your Muslim co-debater; Mohammed Rahman. It comes across in this write-up as a gentlemanly debate, which I'm sure gave more than food for thought for the listeners. Thank you for it and God Bless the fruit for Christ's kingdom that can result. In Christ, Teressa Wing Pastor Nathan, We appreciate very much your input into this debate.
Not only is your write up on it educational and enlightening to us who do not know these differences so clearly, but it is also very Gospel honoring, while being respectfully submitted to your Muslim co-debater; Mohammed Rahman. It comes across in this write-up as a gentlemanly debate, which I’m sure gave more than food for thought for the listeners. Thank you for it and God Bless the fruit for Christ’s kingdom that can result.

In Christ, Teressa Wing

]]> by: nathan http://nathanlewis.org/2010/03/17/did-jesus-rise-from-the-grave-atheist-discussion-group-in-beaverton-invites-nathan-lewis-and-mohammed-rahman-to-present-the-christian-and-muslim-answer/#comment-140088 Sat, 03 Apr 2010 00:26:29 +0000 http://nathanlewis.org/2010/03/17/did-jesus-rise-from-the-grave-atheist-discussion-group-in-beaverton-invites-nathan-lewis-and-mohammed-rahman-to-present-the-christian-and-muslim-answer/#comment-140088 Abdulla: Most of the online translations are quite close to what I have listed here (3:55) rather than (3:54). My favorite online site is www.quranexplorer.com where I can read the English in one column next to the Arabic. The site is maintained by Sunni Muslims and so, if you are from one of the other major branches of Islam or from one of the numerous splinter groups, then you may not trust the Sunnis to translate the Arabic. As one who does not read Arabic, I tend to trust the Sunnis as they are closer to Arabic (their own language) than some of the other major Islamic groups, who read Arabic as their second or third language. Abdulla: Most of the online translations are quite close to what I have listed here (3:55) rather than (3:54). My favorite online site is www.quranexplorer.com where I can read the English in one column next to the Arabic. The site is maintained by Sunni Muslims and so, if you are from one of the other major branches of Islam or from one of the numerous splinter groups, then you may not trust the Sunnis to translate the Arabic. As one who does not read Arabic, I tend to trust the Sunnis as they are closer to Arabic (their own language) than some of the other major Islamic groups, who read Arabic as their second or third language.

]]> by: abdullah http://nathanlewis.org/2010/03/17/did-jesus-rise-from-the-grave-atheist-discussion-group-in-beaverton-invites-nathan-lewis-and-mohammed-rahman-to-present-the-christian-and-muslim-answer/#comment-140087 Fri, 02 Apr 2010 23:19:49 +0000 http://nathanlewis.org/2010/03/17/did-jesus-rise-from-the-grave-atheist-discussion-group-in-beaverton-invites-nathan-lewis-and-mohammed-rahman-to-present-the-christian-and-muslim-answer/#comment-140087 Dear, Please let me know who is the translator of this translation and which website does contain that translation? plz mail me the answer Dear, Please let me know who is the translator of this translation and which website does contain that translation? (3:54) "O Jesus, I will cause you to die, and exalt you to My presence, and clear you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve till the day of Judgment. Could u give me the link u have used 4 the above translation? By whom is the translation and what is that website which contains that translation? Please mail me the answer. thanks. Dear,
Please let me know who is the translator of this translation and which website does contain that translation?
plz mail me the answer
Dear,
Please let me know who is the translator of this translation and which website does contain that translation?

(3:54) “O Jesus, I will cause you to die, and exalt you to My presence, and clear you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve till the day of Judgment.

Could u give me the link u have used 4 the above translation?
By whom is the translation and what is that website which contains that translation?

Please mail me the answer.
thanks.

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