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		<title>by: mike</title>
		<link>http://nathanlewis.org/2007/12/27/i-corinthians-sermon-series/#comment-98906</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's way too late for this to get read, but if someone stumbles upon this, I wanted to express my thoughts as well.  This kind of argument, among others, is exactly why I moved to the reformed faith.  The moralist argument that WE choose faith in Christ to get out of the end result of our wrong doing is totally wrong.  If we chose Christ, I can see where their argument might have a shred to hang on to.  

But it’s not so.  I didn’t choose faith in Christ, God chose me.  I now live in gratitude and do good works because of the change He’s made in me.  He’s told me that nothing can separate me from him.  I choose not to behave in a way displeasing to Him, not because I can’t, but because I don’t want to.

He has opened my eyes, not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s way too late for this to get read, but if someone stumbles upon this, I wanted to express my thoughts as well.  This kind of argument, among others, is exactly why I moved to the reformed faith.  The moralist argument that WE choose faith in Christ to get out of the end result of our wrong doing is totally wrong.  If we chose Christ, I can see where their argument might have a shred to hang on to.  </p>
<p>But it’s not so.  I didn’t choose faith in Christ, God chose me.  I now live in gratitude and do good works because of the change He’s made in me.  He’s told me that nothing can separate me from him.  I choose not to behave in a way displeasing to Him, not because I can’t, but because I don’t want to.</p>
<p>He has opened my eyes, not me.
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		<title>by: Evergreen Presbyterian Church &#124; Resurrection Sermons 2008 and new Ascension Series</title>
		<link>http://nathanlewis.org/2007/12/27/i-corinthians-sermon-series/#comment-68990</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Nathan E. Lewis has been preaching through Paul&#8217;s First Epistle to the Church at Corinth. His six sermons from I Corinthians 15 focus on resurrection. Read them. Or you may listen to them.All of Nathan&#8217;s sermons from I Corinthians can be read at his blog.On April 13 Nathan begins a new series of sermons, &#8220;The Ascension of Jesus Christ.&#8221; From Luke 24: 36-53 and Acts 1:4-11 Nathan will preach the sermon, &#8220;The History of the Ascension.&#8221;On April 20 from Luke 24: 36-53 and Acts 1:4-11 he will preach “The Science of the Ascension.”April 27 - Luke 24: 36-53 -“The Blessing of the Ascension”May 4 – Missions Sunday -Guest Preacher, Fletcher Matandika,  from Malawi at Evergreen; Pastor David Hopkins preaching at CVPCMay 11 Ascension Sunday -Acts 1: 9-11 and John 20, Nathan preaches “Humanity in Heaven”May 18 Pentecost Sunday -Luke 24: 36-53 and John 16 Nathan preaches “The Holy Spirit and the Ascension” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Nathan E. Lewis has been preaching through Paul&#8217;s First Epistle to the Church at Corinth. His six sermons from <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=I+Corinthians+15" title="English Standard Version Bible" target="popup">I Corinthians 15</a> focus on resurrection. Read them. Or you may listen to them.All of Nathan&#8217;s sermons from I Corinthians can be read at his blog.On April 13 Nathan begins a new series of sermons, &#8220;The Ascension of Jesus Christ.&#8221; From <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Luke+24" title="English Standard Version Bible" target="popup">Luke 24</a>: 36-53 and <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Acts+1%3A4-11" title="English Standard Version Bible" target="popup">Acts 1:4-11</a> Nathan will preach the sermon, &#8220;The History of the Ascension.&#8221;On April 20 from <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Luke+24" title="English Standard Version Bible" target="popup">Luke 24</a>: 36-53 and <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Acts+1%3A4-11" title="English Standard Version Bible" target="popup">Acts 1:4-11</a> he will preach “The Science of the Ascension.”April 27 - <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Luke+24" title="English Standard Version Bible" target="popup">Luke 24</a>: 36-53 -“The Blessing of the Ascension”May 4 – Missions Sunday -Guest Preacher, Fletcher Matandika,  from Malawi at Evergreen; Pastor David Hopkins preaching at CVPCMay 11 Ascension Sunday -<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Acts+1" title="English Standard Version Bible" target="popup">Acts 1</a>: 9-11 and <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=John+20" title="English Standard Version Bible" target="popup">John 20</a>, Nathan preaches “Humanity in Heaven”May 18 Pentecost Sunday -<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Luke+24" title="English Standard Version Bible" target="popup">Luke 24</a>: 36-53 and <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=John+16" title="English Standard Version Bible" target="popup">John 16</a> Nathan preaches “The Holy Spirit and the Ascension” [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: nathan</title>
		<link>http://nathanlewis.org/2007/12/27/i-corinthians-sermon-series/#comment-68222</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>brilliant, Joe! Read Tim Keller's new book, rising up the NYT bestseller list, "The Reason for God," and let me know what you think about his answer to the moral question. I agree with yours and will work to refine and to discover a  more precise, if not a better answer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brilliant, Joe! Read Tim Keller&#8217;s new book, rising up the NYT bestseller list, &#8220;The Reason for God,&#8221; and let me know what you think about his answer to the moral question. I agree with yours and will work to refine and to discover a  more precise, if not a better answer.<br />
nathan.
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		<title>by: Joe Staub</title>
		<link>http://nathanlewis.org/2007/12/27/i-corinthians-sermon-series/#comment-68117</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nathan,

Your Easter sermon was a blessing to me, as have all your messages for one reason or another.  I have one comment/critique/question about an application point you made regarding the resurrection in your Easter sermon yesterday.  You said that if we did not believe in the resurrection, or if the resurrection was not a fact, then we ought to go ahead and live as hedonists.  In other words, if Christ had not been raised then there would be no reason to live morally, etc.  I think if a rational atheist were in the congregation yesterday he would not agree with you, because in his mind he actually does have a "rationale" for morality.  As you know, in the last couple of years we have seen several atheist writers/philosophers become prominent through their various books on the subject of atheism.  Individuals such as: Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, and Richard Dawkins all have very popular books now on the subject.  I have read them and listened to them debate the subject and the very issue you raised always comes up as a criticism of atheism.  They have to deal with it all the time.  That is, if God does not exist then what basis do we have for living moral lives.  Shouldn't we all just eat, drink, be merry and go after my own interests.  Their answer to the question can be various, but the one common answer is that morality serves the purpose of natural order in a community.  People have to treat each other with respect and take care of one another so as to provide for the wellbeing of the whole and individual.  Dawkins, who has a special interest in evolution, says that the evolutionary process allowed for community because we derive some pleasure in doing right by others - making others happy.  As you know, I am not an atheist, but as I heard you speak I actually found myself going to the defense of the atheist on this point!  I read Doug Wilson's debate with Hitchens on this very subject.  In fact, Hitchen made the good point in that debate that Christians are no different than Atheists in acting out of self interest and self preservation as a basis for moral behavior.  The Christian fears God and damnation and sees that it is good for him to be good.  He wants to trust in Christ because "he" gets to go to heaven if he does.  He wants to please God because ultimately it is good for him to do so.  So, the "selfish card" does not work.  The Atheist is moral on the grounds that he too operates out of self interest.  He discovers that he feels good when he helps others and we like to keep doing things that make us feel good.  He also discovers that what is good for the community is most often good for him.  Personally, I don't think Wilson won that debate, but that does not mean I agree with his atheistic conclusions, either. So what if the atheist has a reason to be good.  My conclusion is that he has a rational reason, but that reason doesn't make him right.  Perhaps, as usual, have some good food for thought on this for me.

Thanks Nathan,

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>Your Easter sermon was a blessing to me, as have all your messages for one reason or another.  I have one comment/critique/question about an application point you made regarding the resurrection in your Easter sermon yesterday.  You said that if we did not believe in the resurrection, or if the resurrection was not a fact, then we ought to go ahead and live as hedonists.  In other words, if Christ had not been raised then there would be no reason to live morally, etc.  I think if a rational atheist were in the congregation yesterday he would not agree with you, because in his mind he actually does have a &#8220;rationale&#8221; for morality.  As you know, in the last couple of years we have seen several atheist writers/philosophers become prominent through their various books on the subject of atheism.  Individuals such as: Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, and Richard Dawkins all have very popular books now on the subject.  I have read them and listened to them debate the subject and the very issue you raised always comes up as a criticism of atheism.  They have to deal with it all the time.  That is, if God does not exist then what basis do we have for living moral lives.  Shouldn&#8217;t we all just eat, drink, be merry and go after my own interests.  Their answer to the question can be various, but the one common answer is that morality serves the purpose of natural order in a community.  People have to treat each other with respect and take care of one another so as to provide for the wellbeing of the whole and individual.  Dawkins, who has a special interest in evolution, says that the evolutionary process allowed for community because we derive some pleasure in doing right by others - making others happy.  As you know, I am not an atheist, but as I heard you speak I actually found myself going to the defense of the atheist on this point!  I read Doug Wilson&#8217;s debate with Hitchens on this very subject.  In fact, Hitchen made the good point in that debate that Christians are no different than Atheists in acting out of self interest and self preservation as a basis for moral behavior.  The Christian fears God and damnation and sees that it is good for him to be good.  He wants to trust in Christ because &#8220;he&#8221; gets to go to heaven if he does.  He wants to please God because ultimately it is good for him to do so.  So, the &#8220;selfish card&#8221; does not work.  The Atheist is moral on the grounds that he too operates out of self interest.  He discovers that he feels good when he helps others and we like to keep doing things that make us feel good.  He also discovers that what is good for the community is most often good for him.  Personally, I don&#8217;t think Wilson won that debate, but that does not mean I agree with his atheistic conclusions, either. So what if the atheist has a reason to be good.  My conclusion is that he has a rational reason, but that reason doesn&#8217;t make him right.  Perhaps, as usual, have some good food for thought on this for me.</p>
<p>Thanks Nathan,</p>
<p>Joe
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