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		<title>by: nathan</title>
		<link>http://nathanlewis.org/2007/09/29/afro-saxons-frangela-comedic-translators/#comment-52035</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Chad: I think that I would prefer to choose my service facility. As an American I prefer choice. One of my points above is that this preference of choice is stronger than most individual's convictions about integration. The cover story in Willamette Week this week is "School Colors."  For those of my friends who have questioned the sources of my comments above regarding segregation in our schools supported by the choices of people across the political spectrum, I cite this article and recommend the reading of it. 
Chad, thanks for taking the discussion beyond "Black and White."
nathan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad: I think that I would prefer to choose my service facility. As an American I prefer choice. One of my points above is that this preference of choice is stronger than most individual&#8217;s convictions about integration. The cover story in Willamette Week this week is &#8220;School Colors.&#8221;  For those of my friends who have questioned the sources of my comments above regarding segregation in our schools supported by the choices of people across the political spectrum, I cite this article and recommend the reading of it.<br />
Chad, thanks for taking the discussion beyond &#8220;Black and White.&#8221;<br />
nathan.
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		<title>by: CMoore</title>
		<link>http://nathanlewis.org/2007/09/29/afro-saxons-frangela-comedic-translators/#comment-50430</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nathan, Interesting post. I think you meant to spell "white" instead of "while" in this sentance "In Oregon, a statistically “While” state, there are a...."

I do not like the term, Caucasian. I am not from the Caucas mountain region.

To my point: in 2006 I completed to police ride alongs, one in spring 2006 with Washington County, and one in Summer 2006 with Portland Poilce Bureau East Precinct. Then in 2007 I completed another in the east precinct. the main reason I did this was to explore and build upon my criminal justice theories class I took at PSU. I was also exploring whether I wan't to be a police officer after I left the Coast Guard.

My reflections left me to decide that I did not want to be a police officer. My reasons were not that I could not do the job, but as of now I would have an exceptionally hard time dealing with the constant negative experiences. I would become overtly judgemental (more than I already am) and very suspicious of everyone. 

Why do this relate to the article above??? Many of the calls taken when I was with Washington Coutny Sheriffs dept ended up at apartment buildings. I thought this was very wierd, but the officer pointed out that the Beaverton annexation made it this way. The city actively only annexed the portions of the county with lower service rates, i.e. single family homes compared to apartments. This showed a distinct economic difference between the urban county and the city of Beaverton.

In east portland, the two rides were with the same officer whom I know through a college friend. The first year we had one call where a Russian family's son was accosted because of his family heritage. Apparently this was sort of common because of the Eastern Europeans moving into east portland. When we first arrived at the victims home, the house appeard to be a mid-1950s home common to east portland. It was on a busy street, but once inside the couple took great pride in coming to America and the progres they have made in improving the house. Of course, they were upset at the incident involving their son, ut took it in stride to work past the event.

Why write about this?? It appears that new immgrants coming to Portland are challenging the status quo of other minorites that have longer established ties to the area. Even in Compton, CA the traditional neighborhoods are signifcantly differenct then the early 1980's because of the immigration from the southern border. 

In a similar situation to Obama, a gentleman at my 101 membership to our church in California refered to himself as a banana. He is born Korean, but has lived in America since about 10 years old. He stated the term meant, "Yellow on the outside, white on the inside." He attends the Korean affliated congregation of the church and feels caught between the old vs new.

So when we finally get universal healthcare, do you want it organized like our school system? You buy or rent into the local healthcare district and only can go to the district facilities. Or do you prefer an alternative school (healthcare) voucher program where the money follows the student (patient) to the service facilty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, Interesting post. I think you meant to spell &#8220;white&#8221; instead of &#8220;while&#8221; in this sentance &#8220;In Oregon, a statistically “While” state, there are a&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do not like the term, Caucasian. I am not from the Caucas mountain region.</p>
<p>To my point: in 2006 I completed to police ride alongs, one in spring 2006 with Washington County, and one in Summer 2006 with Portland Poilce Bureau East Precinct. Then in 2007 I completed another in the east precinct. the main reason I did this was to explore and build upon my criminal justice theories class I took at PSU. I was also exploring whether I wan&#8217;t to be a police officer after I left the Coast Guard.</p>
<p>My reflections left me to decide that I did not want to be a police officer. My reasons were not that I could not do the job, but as of now I would have an exceptionally hard time dealing with the constant negative experiences. I would become overtly judgemental (more than I already am) and very suspicious of everyone. </p>
<p>Why do this relate to the article above??? Many of the calls taken when I was with Washington Coutny Sheriffs dept ended up at apartment buildings. I thought this was very wierd, but the officer pointed out that the Beaverton annexation made it this way. The city actively only annexed the portions of the county with lower service rates, i.e. single family homes compared to apartments. This showed a distinct economic difference between the urban county and the city of Beaverton.</p>
<p>In east portland, the two rides were with the same officer whom I know through a college friend. The first year we had one call where a Russian family&#8217;s son was accosted because of his family heritage. Apparently this was sort of common because of the Eastern Europeans moving into east portland. When we first arrived at the victims home, the house appeard to be a mid-1950s home common to east portland. It was on a busy street, but once inside the couple took great pride in coming to America and the progres they have made in improving the house. Of course, they were upset at the incident involving their son, ut took it in stride to work past the event.</p>
<p>Why write about this?? It appears that new immgrants coming to Portland are challenging the status quo of other minorites that have longer established ties to the area. Even in Compton, CA the traditional neighborhoods are signifcantly differenct then the early 1980&#8217;s because of the immigration from the southern border. </p>
<p>In a similar situation to Obama, a gentleman at my 101 membership to our church in California refered to himself as a banana. He is born Korean, but has lived in America since about 10 years old. He stated the term meant, &#8220;Yellow on the outside, white on the inside.&#8221; He attends the Korean affliated congregation of the church and feels caught between the old vs new.</p>
<p>So when we finally get universal healthcare, do you want it organized like our school system? You buy or rent into the local healthcare district and only can go to the district facilities. Or do you prefer an alternative school (healthcare) voucher program where the money follows the student (patient) to the service facilty?
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		<title>by: nathan</title>
		<link>http://nathanlewis.org/2007/09/29/afro-saxons-frangela-comedic-translators/#comment-49357</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I agree.  One of the stories hitting Portland news last month was the polling of parents in the Portland School District. The  journalist would ask  parents one by one if he/she were in favor of segregation and the parents overwhelmingly opposed segregation. Then the journalist would ask the parents if they had enrolled their children in the local public school. Those parents who had chosen an alternative education for their children cited the low level of education in their public school and made statements like, "We don't want our children to be held back by slower learners." The journalist would then note the neighborhoods and in most cases these neighborhoods were ethnically diverse with a strong representation of Spanish speakers or an immigrant group. Finally, the journalist would ask each parent to identify his/her political philosophy. Among the many parents who chose to segregate their children educationally, there were as many parents from the left of the political spectrum as from the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  One of the stories hitting Portland news last month was the polling of parents in the Portland School District. The  journalist would ask  parents one by one if he/she were in favor of segregation and the parents overwhelmingly opposed segregation. Then the journalist would ask the parents if they had enrolled their children in the local public school. Those parents who had chosen an alternative education for their children cited the low level of education in their public school and made statements like, &#8220;We don&#8217;t want our children to be held back by slower learners.&#8221; The journalist would then note the neighborhoods and in most cases these neighborhoods were ethnically diverse with a strong representation of Spanish speakers or an immigrant group. Finally, the journalist would ask each parent to identify his/her political philosophy. Among the many parents who chose to segregate their children educationally, there were as many parents from the left of the political spectrum as from the right.
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		<title>by: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://nathanlewis.org/2007/09/29/afro-saxons-frangela-comedic-translators/#comment-45533</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Also note how much easier it is for visitors or recent immigrants from Africa to find acceptance and respect within the dominant culture of the US.  I had never noticed this until I heard it mentioned when I visited the African-American group at my place of work.  I personally think the biggest divide here in the US is not the color of skin ('Black' vs. 'White') nor the color on the election maps ('Red' vs 'Blue') but rather the color of our collars ('White' vs 'Blue').</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also note how much easier it is for visitors or recent immigrants from Africa to find acceptance and respect within the dominant culture of the US.  I had never noticed this until I heard it mentioned when I visited the African-American group at my place of work.  I personally think the biggest divide here in the US is not the color of skin (&#8217;Black&#8217; vs. &#8216;White&#8217;) nor the color on the election maps (&#8217;Red&#8217; vs &#8216;Blue&#8217;) but rather the color of our collars (&#8217;White&#8217; vs &#8216;Blue&#8217;).
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